The goals of rolling are to neutralize delta, harvest profits, collect credits, and widen body width of the Iron Condor.
I see four ideal goals for executing a roll of any position, but specifically Iron Condors. First, I want to neutralize the position delta. Next, I want to harvest profits from the existing position. I also want to collect a net credit with the roll from the old position to the new. And finally, I want to improve probabilities of success by widening the body of the Iron Condor. If I can achieve all four, that’s the quadruple crown of rolling.
Often I see posts in social media lambasting rolling positions as a way to lock in losses and having no point. While that can be a possible scenario, I’d like to take a moment to discuss the ideal outcome of a roll, and share a recent example of what we are striving for with a rolling strategy.
For more information on the initial setup of Iron Condors, refer to my earlier post on the subject. This post is meant to build on that earlier post.
Example Iron Condor Roll
Earlier today I rolled an Iron Condor from 36 days to expiration out to 43 days to expiration. I opened the old position 10 days ago when the market was a little higher. Today, I wanted to better center my position to bring in my position Delta, and be less at risk for a move up. So, I rolled both sides up, rolling the calls up 20 points and rolling the puts up 10 points, which widened the body of the Iron Condor from 120 points to 130 points. Here is a summary of the old and new positions, with key points highlighted for further discussion.
Here is the key data from my tracking sheet for the old and new positions involved in this roll.
Let’s look at each goal and see how I did.
1. Neutralize Delta
While I don’t track Delta in my trade records, I do look at it for my open positions every day. For background on what Delta is for an option, a position, or a portfolio, see my posts on the topic. The account with this position was showing a lot of negative Delta, so I wanted to bring that in to a more neutral amount. Specifically, this position had a position Delta of -4.7, which equates to a Beta-weighted Delta of -47. This would be the equivalent of being short 47 shares of SPY. With my short call strikes slightly in the money, I wanted to reduce delta, get out of the money, and get more time. Rolling out a week accomplished all of that.
By rolling up 20 points, I got my short call out of the money. I rolled out a week, so I have more time. But most importantly, I cut my Delta almost in half from -4.7 to -2.5. I’m not zero delta or completely neutral, but it is a move in the right direction. I try not to over-adjust and chase being neutral too much or I can get whipsawed back and forth. So, now my premium value will be less volatile as the market moves up and down. Goal 1 accomplished.
2. Harvest profits from old position
The market has moved the direction I was positioned for, and today seemed like a good time to roll and recognize some profit. I’ve been in this position for 10 days, just over 20% of the life of the option. I’ve had some help from all the main pricing factors- price has moved down while I had negative Delta, time has passed while I had positive Theta, and volatility has come down slightly while I have negative Vega. All good for me. Notice that my put side lost money and my calls made money. I track them separately which helps me see trends, but the goal is for the net profit to be positive. And this position made $611 over 10 days. That’s around 8% return on capital. Goal 2 accomplished.
3. Collect a net credit from the roll
With a roll up on both sides, I had to pay a debit to roll up the calls, but I collected a bigger credit to roll up the puts. So, the net of the transaction is that I collected $0.35 per unit, or $35 overall. I try to collect credits in every roll because this is cash going into my account, while debits are cash leaving my account.
This old position wasn’t centered, and I widened the position while rolling out, factors that limited my net credit. However, I was able to find strikes that accomplished my other goals while still collecting a net credit. My new position isn’t ideal, but it is better than where I was and I got paid to make the change. Setting up a roll is an exercise in balancing many different desires, and I focus on collecting a credit as a way to determine how far I can go with my other desires. It isn’t a lot, but I collected a credit, so Goal 3 is accomplished.
4. Widen the body of the Iron Condor
The body of my Iron Condor is pretty narrow. How do I know? Look at the profit profile and it is clear that the whole position is inside of one expected move either way. Ideally, I’d like to get the expected moves inside my short strikes, but I’m managing a trade that is much tighter. So, every chance I get, I want to widen the body, the distance between the short strikes. Why do I want to do that? Because wider strikes have faster decay, up to a point, and we aren’t near that point. This position has strikes close to the money and the Theta values of the longs tend to cancel out the Theta of the short strikes more than I’d like. And the wider the distance between short strikes, the higher the probability of the price staying out of the money. Over several rolls, I want to get wider to where the position can tolerate moves without getting into the money as often. I went from 120 points between short strikes to 130 points, so Goal 4 is accomplished.
Quadruple Crown!
This roll accomplished all four of my goals for an Iron Condor roll. As I mentioned, I had to make some trade-offs along the way to accomplish all four goals, but this is an example of how I use all the data at my disposal to pick the trade that best suits the current situation.
Not every roll can be hit all four goals. If the current trade is a loser, the best you can do is meet the other three goals. Sometimes, I have to miss one goal to make another. In those cases, I choose based on what goal I’m most concerned with- do I need to neutralize delta more than I need a credit, or do I need to maintain body width more than I need a credit? Generally, I have a good shot to meet most of my goals if the current underlying price is inside the short strikes. As short strikes go deeper into the money, it becomes more and more likely that a roll will miss many of my goals.
This mindset of positive goals for trades isn’t exclusive to Iron Condors, but I thought today’s example would be a good way to illustrate the thought process involved in rolling for positive outcomes.
In the bear market of early 2022, I re-discovered a strategy that I had mostly discarded during the bull market of the preceding years, the Iron Condor. The Iron Condor is primarily a neutral trade that when managed with aggressive rolls can provide good returns in choppy, down-trending markets. My goal is to maintain a position that can tolerate fairly big market moves up or down, while benefiting from time decay.
I had discarded the Iron Condor trade because I found I was always losing on the call side of the Iron Condor. Initially, I liked the idea of making money on both sides, but I found in a constant up market, I often lost more money from calls than I made from puts. So, I switched to mainly put spreads and other short put strategies, which did great. But then 2022 came along, and it was clear that the market was no longer going up, and that we were heading for a bear market. I started adding credit call spreads to my credit put spreads to balance risk and have a neutral strategy. Over time I saw that some of my set ups and management strategies were working better than others, so I investigated and came up with a process that now works well in the current bear market environment.
The basic setup of an Iron Condor
Selling Iron Condors is an extremely common option trading strategy. The strategy is a combination of two calls and two puts, four separate options working together. Usually, an out of the money put and out of the money call are sold, and then a further out of the money put and call are purchased to define the risk and reduce cost. The trade wins at expiration if the price ends up between the short strikes, and hits max loss if the price moves beyond one of the long strikes. However, I rarely if ever hold to expiration and roll my position way before expiration is a concern.
Here is an actual California Condor with a profit curve of an Iron Condor option trade drawn over it.
An Iron Condor is named after the shape of the profit curve at expiration, which kind of looks like a condor with a bit of imagination, kind of like how star constellations are named. The iron part of the name designates that it is made up of a combination of puts and calls, as opposed to a put condor, or call condor which has four legs of the same type of contract. An example of a put condor is the broken wing put condor strategy I have described in a separate post.
To build on the condor metaphor, the difference in option strikes are often referred to as the body and wings of the combination trade. The body is the difference between the short put strike and the short call strike. The wings are difference between the call strikes or between the put strikes. The wings on the puts may be equal in width to the wings on the call, or they may be different. Wings that are different widths might be call unbalanced, or broken wings, as the profit profile will no longer be equal levels each end of the price ranges of the trade.
My preferred Iron Condor setup
What I have determined works best for my management strategy is to use the S&P 500 index options (SPX), targeting a starting point 28-35 days from expiration, with option Delta values of 30 for the short strikes and around 20 for the long strikes. I like equal width for the put side and call side, so the Delta values for calls will be a bit wider than the put side, and the net Delta of the Iron Condor will be slightly negative. With implied volatility between 20 and 30%, I generally target 100 wide wings, with the body between the short put and short call of around 15o points on SPX.
Here is the setup of an actual trade from early 2022 on SPX using the criteria from this post. In this example 30% of the wing width was collected, and a little lower deltas were used.For the above example trade, the goal is to keep in the profit zone for the first several days of the trade- the positive area under the 21 DTE curve.
I use SPX because it is the least likely underlying to have outsized moves. It is also very liquid to trade, has tax advantages in taxable accounts, and has expirations multiple times per week in the timeframes I trade. Depending on account size or type, other option products for the S&P 500 may be appropriate and can be used instead with essentially the same strategy. Other indexes or even individual stocks can be used, but managing can tougher with bigger moves, less expirations, and less liquidity.
I use 28-35 days to expiration (DTE) because my position can tolerate most reasonable moves while still having decent decay. I’ve used timeframes as low as 7 DTE, but find that many one day moves can push a position out of the profit zone, and I find myself fighting a losing battle too often. Longer durations of up to up to or over 100 DTE can work, but decay is slower, and there are very few expiration choices to roll to for the way I like to manage. All that said, my plan can vary to different timeframes, with the goal that I will only hold the position for somewhere between 1/10 and 1/5 of the time left to expiration- for example, a 30 DTE would be held 3-6 days before rolling, while a 100 DTE position would be held 10-20 days.
I choose 30 delta for short strikes and 20 delta for long strikes because they are the most forgiving in a move, while still offering reasonable decay as a spread. Higher deltas allow for more premium to be collected, and price movement will often be well tolerated as the long strike of the tested side will increase and the short strike of the untested side will decrease in value, compensating for much of the increase in value of the tested short strike. The goal of my management strategy is to keep this relationship intact, so that price movement has little impact on my option position value. I think of the area where deltas of the four options balance each other out as the profit zone. Staying in the profit zone allows Theta, or time decay, to do its work and deliver profits. I have used strikes with a bit higher delta values, but if too high, the two sides will get tested more often and then require more management. In the past, I often used lower delta spreads for safety and better percentage decay. However, I have discovered that low delta positions don’t actually tolerate price movement well because the untested side of an Iron Condor quickly runs out of premium to offset any of the movement of tested side. This observation has been a game changer for my use of Iron Condors.
I use equal width wings on the Iron Condor for a couple of reasons. Equal width seems to tolerate price movement, both up and down. Equal width also leads to a net negative Delta position, decreasing the total position profit when prices go up and increasing profit when prices go down, which is good in a bear market where downturns are frequent. Negative delta actually is somewhat neutral if the value is only slightly negative- Iron condors also have negative Vega, or decrease profit when implied volatility goes up. So, typically when prices go down, implied volatility goes up, and impacts of the negative Delta and negative Vega cancel each other out.
My Iron Condors are opening somewhere around 50% of the width of the wings. For example, if I have 100 wide wings, I would expect to collect $50 premium. I initially resisted this, thinking that the probabilities would be too low. However, since the time in the trade is so short, and I plan to actively manage moves against my position, I find that the risk reward ratio becomes favorable. However, the example trade that I’ve used is a little wider body and collected only 30% of the width.
This chart shows previous market movement at the time of entering a trade, along with the expected move based on implied volatility and boxes to illustrate the strikes of the Iron Condor. The dates are the opening date, the expiration date, and the planned target date to close. This trade used long strikes that were at the expected move at expiration.
I have devised a graphic that may help to visualize this setup in regards to the expected move and time frame of the trade. The graph has several components- a historic rendering of what the index has done for the past several weeks, a curve showing the expected move for the next several weeks based on current implied volatility, and two boxes to represent the put and call strikes shown from the time of opening until expiration, and the target date to take action. My point with this chart is to show that while the strikes chosen are within the expected move at expiration, they are outside the expected move through the time I expect to be in the trade before I manage it. Said another way, if the position were held to expiration, it is very likely it would be breached on one side, but because the plan is to manage early, a breach is not likely- it would take an outsized move beyond the one standard deviation expected move.
Managing the trade with rolls
I manage my Iron Condor with what I think is a fairly unique rolling strategy. I roll my positions out in time and change all strikes in the direction that price has moved. If price goes up, I roll all the strikes up. If price goes down, I roll all the strikes down. I just roll whichever way the market goes. Here’s the interesting part- if I keep in the “profit zone,” I can roll up or down for a net credit with each roll, and my existing position will have a net profit. Usually, one side will be sitting with a profit and one side with a loss. The losing side is being tested- its strikes have higher deltas than when the trade started. The profitable side will have lower deltas than when the trade started. My profitable side should have a bigger profit than the loss of losing side. When I roll, I will likely have to pay a debit to get my losing tested side back to a good set of strikes at the new expiration. However, I should be able to collect a bigger credit on the profitable untested side than my tested side cost. Ideally, every roll is closing a profitable trade and collecting a net credit to open its replacement. All of this sounds great, too good to be true, but there are a number of details to unpack.
The first challenge is to stay in the profit zone. My general rule is that if I keep my untested short strike must never drop to a Delta value below 15. The reason is that when the Delta of the untested side gets below this point, it quickly stops being able to meaningfully contribute to offsetting price movement in the tested direction. For example, if the price drops, the short call will get further out of the money and drop in value, while the puts will go up in value. For a while the Deltas will mostly balance each other out, but as the Delta of the short call drops below 15, the put spread will start increasing much faster and the calls decreasing less. If this happens, it is time to act and roll all the puts and all the calls down to where there is again premium on both the put and call side. If price has gone up too much, it’s time to roll up all the puts and calls.
Actually, I try not to wait until the untested side gets to 15. I think of my position of having three possible states, green, yellow, or red. Green is when both short strike’s Deltas are above 20- everything is great and there is nothing to do. Yellow is caution, one of the short strikes are between 20 and 15, and probably will need to roll soon. Red is stop and take action, one of the short strikes is 15 or below, so it is time to roll immediately. So, my choice is clear for Green or Red, but I need to use some judgement in the Yellow state. If the day starts in the Yellow, I am more likely to let it ride for a while and watch to see if it recovers or gets worse. If the market has trended throughout the day and moved into the Yellow, I am likely to roll before the end of trading so I don’t end up deep in the Red overnight. If there is a strong trend pulling the position quickly toward Red, that may also be a good indication to act. Yellow is a judgement call.
I find that it is harder to have a profitable, credit roll when tested on a quick up movement. As mentioned earlier, equal width wings means that there will be a negative delta overall, and while volatility reduction can help, big up moves can be hard to stay on top of. That’s why this strategy works best in a bear environment, when the market is trending down.
Don’t over manage. Markets bounce around a lot, and it can be tempting to want to act on each little trend that happens. If I have the right strikes- the right body width and wing width for the market conditions, my position should be able to tolerate price movement. If I’m trading at 30 DTE, I want to wait 3-6 days between rolls, so I need to be choiceful about not rolling too often. If the market moves a huge amount in a couple of days, I may need to roll early, but then I’ll want to try to go longer before the next roll. The other thing to consider is that often the markets overshoot in one direction or the other, so I try not to move too far to chase moves that go on for days, and stay patient that the market will counter the trend.
If a position isn’t winning regularly and isn’t holding its premium in control, that’s a sign that the strikes aren’t right for the market and the duration. For a while I was trading 7 DTE Iron Condors on SPX with around 100 wide bodies and 50 wide wings. I would adjust nearly every day, but I couldn’t keep the position in the profit zone, and I often took losses. There wasn’t enough space in the body and the wings weren’t helping enough. By widening out the body and wings and adding more time, I found the position much easier to manage, and more likely to be profitable, and much less likely to take a big loss.
One way I can tell if I have a forgiving position is to compare my premium to the premium of the same position a few strikes higher or lower. For example, with Schwab StreetSmart Edge, I can pick Iron Condor as a strategy, pick an expiration date, pick a body width and a wing width. The application will then give me a list of strike combinations and premiums for those parameters. If all the choices around my preferred strikes have similar premium, then I know that price movement will have minimal impact on my chosen position. If there is a rapid change in premium for other strikes above or below my choice, it means my Iron Condor parameters are not very forgiving, and I should adjust time or widths or both. Other brokers will have similar ways to compare prices by shifting up or down all the strikes.
I have updated the earlier graphic to illustrate how a change in price over time will dictate the choice of a new position to roll to. The new price now dictates a new expected move, and new ideal strikes and expirations. Hopefully, this chart will help those that are fond of graphical illustrations.
After 7 days of mostly down moves, I decided to roll down my positions and roll out to a later expiration. In this image, the old position and expected move are there along with an updated expected move and new strikes.
Eight legs in the Roll
Since an Iron Condor has four legs, rolling involves closing four legs and opening four new ones. I don’t think any broker or exchange allows a eight-legged trade, so at a minimum this will take two trades to complete the roll. My preference is to roll the puts as a trade, and roll the calls as a trade. I usually start with the side that is being tested and might need a debit to roll to a new expiration and strikes. Then I do the other side, usually moving the same amount and keeping the same width, expecting to collect more to roll the untested side than I pay to roll the tested side.
At times, I may have a situation where I don’t have enough buying power to roll one side while the other side remains in place. If that happens, I’m probably using more of my buying power than I should, or the position is just too big for my account. It isn’t that big of a deal to manage the situation, however, I just close the untested side out and roll the tested side, then open a new position on the untested side. Worst case scenario, I can close the whole Iron Condor at once- freeing up its buying power, and then open a new one with the same buying power. As long as the wing widths are the same and the new Iron Condor collects more to open than the old Iron Condor cost to close, there should be a net gain in buying power. But again, any time buying power restricts a trade, it is probably time to pare down some positions in the account.
How Iron Condors tolerate price movement
Probably the best way to explain how an Iron Condor tolerates price movement is with an example. Earlier in this post I showed an opening trade from April 1, 2022. Let’s look at it again and look at how it fared after 7 days.
Here is the setup of an actual trade from early 2022 on SPX using the criteria from this post.
Notice that the premium collected is approximately $15 each on the put side and the call side.
After a week, price has dropped to 4500, but the premium has dropped for a profit.
The premium on the put side has gone up to around 16.50, while the call side has dropped to just under $6.
After 7 days the premium increased on the put side but decreased on the call side, as illustrated by the larger and smaller strike position arrows, and the result is a net profit.
So, after 7 days, the trade made about $800 on $10,000 risk, an 8% return. But, that’s just the start- the plan is to roll, and so the closing trade above was combined with the following opening trade:
On April 7, this trade was opened while closing the old position for a net credit and strikes that are back at the edge of the expiration expected move.
The combination of closing the old trade and opening the new trade is a net credit of just under $14 premium. This is the result we are looking for- a profit on the trade being closed, and a credit to move out in time and get to better strikes for the latest situation.
And just to finish the example trade, let’s look out another week and see what happened to the market and the trade that was rolled to.
After rolling down, the market kept going down, but stayed within the new strikes with plenty of space to spare.
By April 13, the market had dropped even further, approaching where the puts from the original position had been. However, the roll down gave the new position plenty of space and the trade was sitting at a profit, and ready to roll again.
After 6 days, the rolled position had decayed even after a market move. Again, puts lost money, but the calls made the position profitable.
This trade made $1430 in 6 days, a 14% return on capital. Since the market went down, the put side of this trade lost money, although not that much since the price didn’t end up that close to the put strikes since our new strikes were lower than the old ones. Time decay helped counter the price movement against the puts. The money was made on the call side through both price movement and time decay. In the end time decay, represented by Theta, eats away premium as long as price doesn’t get too close to the strikes.
These are examples of trades I did during the Spring of 2022 in the face of a bear market. Not every trade faired this well. Some market moves were too fast and too far for me to be able to roll before the position went too far to one side. But more often than not, this rolling methodology has kept me from having positions blown out, and keeps day to day portfolio value from varying out of control.
You may notice that the example trades shown here don’t exactly follow all the mechanics I’ve described. Since those trades I’ve become a little more likely to intervene early, although it’s a balance with avoiding over-adjusting.
Finally, I don’t always get my rolled positions re-centered, like I did in the example I presented here. Often, I’m happy to just move in the direction of the market and make sure my new strikes are a bit out of the money on the tested side. In this crazy bouncy market, we get lots of reversals, so I let my positions stay a little off when the market has moved a long way and technical indicators suggest the last several days move may be about finished. However, these choices come down to individual trader preference and market outlook. No one knows what is happening tomorrow or next week, so we each have to decide what trade is best based on the information available. For a real life example of this type of decision making in action, see my post on the Goals of Rolling an Iron Condor.
